i don't care for the new hair style personally. i think it makes her look ridiculous. so far every snippet i've seen from flag has me seeing an Emilie that's become lost in theatrics.
okay, dangit, i don't know why i do this to myself.
reading through this i've got issues, MAINLY with the OP which i'm going to address now.
#1 page four, post three
the dismissal of "a lot of those points are lies"
i'm just picturing you with your fingers in your ears going "Lala it's a lie"
the qualifier "not that you're a liar" doesn't much help either. it still seems like you're calling her a liar.
for the record, what SoulSurrendered wrote on the subject was true. more on that later.
misinformation is spread for one of two reasons: propaganda, and ignorance of the actual facts.
it's rude to assume, regardless of who you're talking to, so the best way to handle misinformation is to be diplomatic about it.
rather than saying "it's a lie!" (which is rude, and communicates dismissal of view) try approaching it in this manner:
response: this is misinformation
this is the proper information
this is my source
many people view the last step as optional, but i do not believe it is. simply because, if you really and truly want to open honest lines of communication you yourself must be honest. your source may be wrong, in which case someone can direct to another source that has the correct facts properly laid out.
likewise, you must bear in mind that EVERYBODY has the capacity to be deceptive. not everybody chooses to use those methods. since we can only get to know our sources so well it's important that we do our research to understand the creditials of the person giving us information. also keep in mind that just because someone backs a benevolent cause, it doesn't mean that they are above being deceptive as a means of swaying people to their side. this goes for ALL sides, not just the OTHER side.
research ALL claims, especially the outlandish ones such as:
Lady Grey wrote:
yeah, unfortunately 1.there's no way to get real feathers from a commercial source humanely. And EA's been wearing ostrich feathers for a while too. And her infamous unicorn hat (which I love) is sadly made of wool. 2.Sheep shearing is extremely violent too which is why I choose to not wear wool.
1. the simple process of molting
(which every animal with feathers/fur/exoskeleton/hair does) can have you collecting all kinds of feathers, fully intact, without ever touching the bird. the molting phase sheds the most during spring, when the winter coat is being shed. killing birds for feathers would actually be a rather poor business practice, as you get more (and better) feathers off a molting bird than you do off a dead one.
2. sheep don't even need to be tethered
for sheering. the most harm sheering can do is tugging at the wool when the razor's too dull, and anyone worth their salt knows continuing on with a dull blade will do damage to both the tool and the wool, so the blades are changed regularly.
as you can see from the video i linked (in the opening of this paragraph), the sheep aren't manhandled, or hacked, or abused. one may be skittish from the constant buzzing noise, but there's no harm done there at all.
fact of the matter is, shaving your legs with that fancy Venus razor is more brutal and potentially harmful than sheering a sheep.
i know i warned against assuming, but logically i cannot view those two claims as anything more than propaganda, and making such wild statements is where your point of view tends to be lost.
as for cows needing to be milked, yes they do. as do humans, and puppies, and kittens and lions and tigers and bears (oh my!), or any mammal that is in its milk-producing stage. when the animal's brood is sucking on their teat they are, in all technicality, milking that animal. if there wasn't some method (nursing, pumping, machines, etc) expelling that liquid from the swollen mammary glands it gets extremely painful (speaking from experience).
Lady Grey wrote:
Humans have the digestive tract of an herbivore. We were not built to digest meat.
this statement annoys me, simply because hiddenshadow gave you evidence to the contrary pages before, yet you're still holding to it.
i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and tell myself you didn't see it, and post those links again:http://www.straightdope.com/columns/rea ... -by-naturehttp://www.marksdailyapple.com/meat-eat ... z1koOvVI3jhttp://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4 ... habit.htmlhttp://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/low- ... s-part-ii/
if you truly want an open and honest discussion 1. gauge your responses/rebuttals and communicate properly. the empathy approach is best, would you be inclined to listen if someone responded to you in a certain manner? the answer for yourself is the same as the answer for someone else 2. be open to the other point of view. you may learn something.
Feathers don't exist, you know. They are an illusion...
So you can't respond with a valid answer? Sad face. So you're talking... crap basically, since you're making a joke out of your own comment. Am I right? Yes I am.
i'm with TiggTea on this, you sparked the discussion yourself. if you want others to take it seriously you need to do so yourself.