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actually it is on topic because in the original post the issue of Emilie using feathers was brought up falling into the vegan discussion. it's not in the title, but it's still part of the discussion.

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...I thought the wig was effing brilliant.. I can't remember the last time I fell in love with a head piece like that...

Whoever mentioned that seeing her perform in this wig appeared as if she was now in control of herself-
I agree tenfold. My sentiments exactly.

I love the wig. I'm kinda sad I didn't get to experience the red flame but the blonde looks good on her (it is her natural hair color after all) And I think it adds a lot to the songs. I kinda think of it as a battle headress.

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I just found her headpiece here and I have a good feeling we will see more in the future like this other one.

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EA 1/26/2012, Denver, Colorado.

I know this was a few pages back, and I'm sure people just want to move on from the issue, but this really ruffled my feathers (... pun intended? XD) And it's not terribly off topic, because it is related to her headress wig thing.



Please don't be offended by my asking this, but are you Native American?
I am. And no, I'm not 1/60th cherokee either. I'm 1/4th athapaskan native from my mom's side and my step father is full-blooded native. He is very much invested in his tribe, which means I get to be around a lot of natives.

I can't tell you how many time I've heard family members of mine complaining about non-natives doing this kind of thing. Native culture has a tendency to be overly romanticized and it can get really annoying. Native culture tends to be overly generalized as well. Not all native tribes had sacred rituals involving feathers. My step-dad's does not, for instance. I don't personally know of the tribes that do, because there are hundreds of tribes in North America. I haven't personally researched much about other tribes. So, maybe to a select number of the hundreds of tribes, white people wearing Native American inspired clothing is offensive.

I can't speak for every single Native American tribe out there, or even every individual Indian. I'm just one girl with an opinion. However, I can honestly say that I don't personally know a single native who would be offended by EA having feathers in her wig. Or even look at it and immediately connect it with Native Americans.

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Some people are saying there's no vegan way to get real feathers...I'm not vegan, but what if they took the feathers off of a bird that had already died of natural causes? Therefor, not hurting the animal in any way?
But, anyways, my opinion on her new wig is that it's very fitting for FLAG, even though I don't love it. I think she should keep it for the FLAG tour, since it looks very warrior queen/battle themed to me, but that she should go back to red after the tour since that's the look that so many people associate with her.

Some people are vegan, some are not. thats okay, and thats okay.

As for the native american thing, I totally understand what you mean Lizardo. I am seeing a (GORGEOUS!) native american woman, and this issue bothers her as well. She feels like trying too hard to not be racist is in itself racist. And I agree with her.

DRAMA from feathers ? WTF There is nothing wrong with feathers in her hair. EA is an entertainer with an open mind, she can wear anything she likes, that's why I started to like her last summer.
Vegan shmegan, it's not a Religion, and like any Religion, don't push it on anyone. For me, I like animals, they taste good, when cooked properly. HA!

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^ Agreed. And again, the wig is amazing.

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^ Again, thank you. Awesome headpiece =awesome show with a very strong message. This tour has just started, the second act will appear soon. Who knows what EA will look like later in her evolving stage act.
I look forward to anything she comes up with.

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Not offended in the least. First of all, nope, not Native at all, and actually European. /o/
I totally agree with you about EA's wig (I said so in one of my answers) : I really find nothing wrong with it. My point in the answer you quoted was that although, in this particular case, there was nothing to be upset about, you can't just brush off culture appropriation such as this or that by saying "Oh, stop being ridiculous, they're just FEATHERS/I mean it as a tribute/I think it's cute". It's just not that easy. (Of course, not being American, I'm not directly involved in that ; but central Europe has been stealing pieces of art and sacred objets from its former colonies during decades, so it's a problem we're not totally strangers to.)
In EA's case, indeed, screaming "OMG CULTURE APPROPRIATION" would just be a very pathetic example of the Politically Correct Dictatorship. But I feel concerned whenever, in a debate concerning an oppressed minority, I hear anyone saying "that's just an unimportant detail". Because usually, details say a lot, and they're NOT unimportant. Hope you get my point.

La Deterree, I find your choice of images incredibly racist. as in I find you acting foolishly racist. How do you know those girls aren't native american? Do you feel you need to look all "We smokum peace pipe, pale man" to be native american? My girlfriend is BLONDE, and is still, predominantly, genetically native american. So you, as neither an American or American Native telling us we have to be certain colors to wear certain things...

thats what you did. that is exactly what you did. And that is racist. I am offended, my girlfriend has reads your posts and is equally offended.

On the other side of that, She owes you no explanation. And myself, as someone of european ancestry can wear whatever I wish without justifying it to you. Be it head dress or african tribal war paint. and I can wear it for whatever reason I want. If you wish to see something negative in my love of human history, In my disinterest in upholding the inequity to which you're subscribed to (in the name of equality no less!) that's your problem. to care this much can be just as harmful as not caring at all. aesthetics belong to no one race. and all human history belongs to all humans.

Now I'm getting all emotional... I best stop typing.

Wow, i don't think that was what La Déterrée was getting at at all. At no stage did they say that no native american could ever be blonde or that you have to look a certain way to be a native american. All she did was pick two images of random girls using a headdress as a fashion accessory. It wasn't even implied that she thought "OMG these people can't wear that because they're white!!111".

I honestly think you've blown this well out of proportion.

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