THE ASYLUM - Emilie Autumn's Official Forum

Hey look......she is actually playing...

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^^Oooh, I hadn't seen that video before. Still, like I said - and Cyanide too-, she probably was sent more than once and one of those times happened before Opheliac was released and another afterwards. As she's said she was there for "months" many people suggested she could've been multiple times. So... unless someone has a better theory, I don't think EA could have been lying when she wrote that in her blog, I mean, why would she?, and if that's so, then she was in fact there after Opheliac was released.

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She was mentioning The Asylum as far back as 2005...

Rouge is correct and I will even dare to say even in late 2004. Several "Asylum" things has been mentioned way before Opheliac was released. Also, I remember a twat of hers once that say that the original "Thank God I'm pretty" in Opheliac was made before she was locked up but the showgaze version was made after as everybody could clearly see the difference. It wasn't this literal but it was exactly the same in her own words. So anyway, she has decided not to say the whens so I guess it's something we'll never know... Whatever she wanted to share with us she has done already.

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She did say in her book that she had experience with the mental health system but it was the first time she was sent to be under suicide watch and to be admitted into a psych ward. She was locked in there for some time. EA's journal entries expand over 2006 too. And she has had numerous psychiatric hospital visits afterwards for check ups, I can imagine. I think the book itself was really about one visit. But she must have had quiet a few afterwards or perhaps even before as an 'out' patient.

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Marry Me is on the bonus disk, which wasn't until the first re-release of Opheliac, so it still holds.

the Opheliac EP was released in Spring '06, the full album delayed due to a robbery (source) so it's possible, and plausible that Opheliac had been released prior to her stay, and Opheliac was the album she was working on completing.

i'll be the first to admit that Em's claims make me skeptical, but this one is plausible and don't understand why it's a problem?

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Marry Me was on the Opheliac EP. So i'm confused why you say it doesn't show up till the re-release.

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because i was remembering things wrong. it happens.

and just because the song was released on an EP doesn't mean the lyrics were released openly on her site. that was what the whole passage was about, wasn't it? that Dr. Sharpe had found lyrics that she had hidden on the site, not that he had heard a song.

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I had thought i was going crazy for a second.

yes, that's what the passage was about.

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The idea of the Asylum does not need to have manifested while EA was in the psych ward. EA knew that she had bipolar disorder before being admitted and in the drug journal she mentions how after taking Lithium she would then be forever labeled as being insane. If that is the first time that she sees herself as being insane then that is possibly when the idea of the asylum was first created. Also, because EA often uses the definition of asylum being the one that means sanctuary, EA could have possibly created the asylum as a way to cope with what she is going through. If my hypothesis is correct then it would actually make quite a bit of sense as to why the whole Asylum part of TAFWVG would have been created in EA's mind. If it already existed as an idea which EA used to cope with the problems then it would make quite a bit of sense for it to manifest itself as the way it did while EA was in the psych ward.

I think that there are a few things which can be done to determine when EA was in the psych ward. The first thing is to find out exactly when EA got her cell number tattooed onto her arm and then start working backwards. Then we should probably look at interviews she has been in and in which a change occurs which goes from her talking about being an inmate in the asylum to her talking about how she is locked up in the asylum. I know it's a subtle change but I feel that that change will occur once she has been locked up. Lastly, we would need to then try to find a few months which would have made sense for her to have been locked up based on the info she has given and the info that can be gathered about her behavior (I would have said to look to see if a CD had to have been postponed in its released but then I remember that that was pretty much all of her CDs).

Lastly, in regards to the video posted, EA has a lot of stuff around her arms so it is very hard to see them. However, at 3:58 you can see what looks like marks from her cutting. However, due to the quality of the video there is the possibility of it being fake blood from part of her costume. However, if it is marks from her cutting then that means that the video is before she would have been admitted to the psych ward because it seems to me that when she had either stopped cutting before being admitted or she did not cut anymore afterwards.

^She got cell number's tattoo in 2009.

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Nice proof for her being commited in March 2006 in this thread: http://forum.emilieautumn.com/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=29289.
There's a gap in her livejournal entries for 32 days. (That livejournal has been deleted)

As Opheliac EP was released spring 2006 (delayed), it would make sense that is was recorded well before then.

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I am not going to try to figure out what date/how long she has been locked up, because I think that's her private life and it feels a bit invading to her privacy. But, I did think I figured it out how it works with the release/locked up thanks to having the book, so I will try to tell everyone in a way one knows it but the book doesn't get spoiled. I try my best to keep spoilers out.

Miss Autumn have had, as mentioned before on this topic, several experiences with both mental health care, 'shrinks' and suicide before she eventually got locked up (sorry I don't know a more subtle way to put it, my English is pretty bad). When you listen closely to Opheliac, you will also notice none of the songs are actually about being locked up, rather about mental illness and medication in general. Due to a series of unfortunate events, Miss Autumn tried to drown herself in a lake. This is was when she made the deal with herself about finishing Opheliac. Thus, she started working on Opheliac, but then something bad happened which I won't mention because of spoilers, and if I am correct then she took all her sleeping pills and got locked away. This would make sense as fLee said it was in 2006 and Opheliac as well as the European tour were later in 2006/2007. Thus she was almost finished with Opheliac when she got locked away, as she mentioned she was already done /writing/ Opheliac, but not editing/releasing. Eventually when she got out she finished Opheliac (probably editing) and probably felt like she had a purpose and thus kept her promise to herself

I hope this makes sense and please realise this is just what I figured out, not the absolute truth ( I could be so off that the people who know her laugh so hard the tea drips out off their cups). I tried my best to explain without invading too much of her privacy.

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