^ I know you're not referring to me but I looked for it too and here's the quote...
Von Plague wrote:
jrobbins30078 wrote:
I think you're talking about the Masquerade in Atlanta.
I was there. Here's what happened. The Masquerade is a club converted from an old mill. It's made up of three levels named, "Heaven", "Hell", and "Purgatory". EA was performing in "Heaven" and another artist was performing in "Hell".
Now imagine you're at home enjoying a nice cup of tea and listening to some classical music, when all of the sudden, you're downstairs neighbor starts a rave in his apartment. That was what it was like in "Heaven". We came to see EA, not hear house music. It in many ways spoiled the show, because it made it hard to hear them talk, in some instances. Emilie, in my opinion, rightfully yelled at the management for this. At one point she said ,"Either you shut it down or WE will shut it down." Needless to say the management took a dim view of this. They called the police because they were afraid a couple hundred muffins were going to actually do this and they would have a riot on their hands. Then they called the Fire Marshal, because Emilie kept threatening to bring out the fire portions of the show, after they told her she wouldn't be able to do it at the Masquerade.
This was not the show EA & BC, wanted to bring to Atlanta. Emilie anger at the Masquerade was tempered by the actions of the Atlanta muffins. She called us "Civilized". Some had flown in or driven hours to see her.She said muffins at any other show would be up in arms.
I hope Emilie comes back to Atlanta soon and does the show she wanted to do.
Okay... looking at this objectively, I can see why the management thought EA's attitude was a bit off.
If she wants to do parts of a show involving fire and the like, it's not suprising that some places would not allow this. I do wonder if this was discussed in advance, because if it was, and the concert was booked regardless, there is really nothing the muffins or performers can get annoyed at.
As for the music downstairs... It's a rave. The music will be loud. Once again, my view on this would depend on how the venue and EA's organisers handled the booking - if all parties were aware of the dual booking, once again nothing can be complained about. And even if it wasn't, you cannot blame a venue for wanting to use two thirds of it's space. As long as EA was made aware in advance that she would not be the only performer, I can't see the issue. And it seems not to have occured to anyone that this was probably a two-way street. Chances are they could hear EA's violin screeching over some neatly arranged beats. Noise carries through both ways.
And even if it wasn't a serious threat to "shut it down" (which reads to me as trashing the venue - please correct me if I'm wrong), what were the venue meant to do? Had EA's muffins got carried away and started damaging property, assaulting staff, causing trouble, the police would've been a bloody good idea. It's better to be safe than sorry - particularly when you're a venue and could be liable for anything that happens to your staff.
I do not think in all honesty that EA would've trashed the venue, or that the muffins would have trashed the venue. But they don't know EA, only what they saw on stage. And by the sounds of it, what they saw on stage was intimidating.
Please don't mistake this as a swipe at EA, I love her live shows.
But I can see why the venue were unhappy.
Well the fact is the Masquerade signed the contract which clearly states "No other acts" scheduled when EA performs. Done; with a breach of contract. That the other show is on a different floor starts the minutia of all things shitty and disingenuous.
LTJ Bukem was to start @ 11pm. That is when the downstairs manager said it would have to get loud, but he would keep it down before that. EA starts @ 9 so there would be 1/2 overlap. Ok, fine. She agrees to that arrangement.
This arrangement did not happen and indeed, 15 minutes into the show the boom-boom started. I believe it was intentional.
I read 96 to 98 dBs c-weighted of their music COMMING THRU THE FLOORS!!! EA's theatrical show maxes out at 103 dBs. Their volume thru the floor almost rivals her show's peak.
And her violin @ 93-95 dBs. That would NOT have gone thru the floors to overpower what must have been 110dBs of music downstairs.
Fire was a no-no from the beginning. None of that gear was unloaded from the trailer. There was no fire to perform. EA used this threat to get ANY kind of answer from the venue's GM as he was not around when Hell's music started early.
Was this a job for the tour manager? Yes. However,the TM was proving inadequate in many of his functions up to and including this gig and EA felt the need to interact directly with ANYONE from the venue.
Professionalism was discarded by the venue WELL before EA took stage and continued well thru her set.
Two funny observations: At some point during EA's second plea for venue assistance, the lighting guy leans over to me and says in all seriousness "If she keeps this up, she will never be able to play here again!". That was so funny because about 10 minutes after we first arrived EA had to ask why the artist toilet was plugged up with fecal matter and the floor flooded to the door! "Do they not know there is a show tonight?" Add to this the mirror-less and power outlet-less shit-holes of a "dressing room" and she determined she would never play there again. How was the light guy to know that though...haha. It was a funny moment of me thinking "Yeah, she's really worried about that..."
The other was when the police and fire arrived to the venue to respond to the plea of help from the endangered GM. There the viscous, unruly rock...punk..no, thrash...um...pretty girls in corsets running around throwing bottles...bricks...mic stands...um, no...cookies and muffins, were on stage singing satanic...hate...um...dramatic songs of love, live and suffering.
"You called us out for THIS..." The look of APD/AFD was priceless I am told. One of the former murder capitals of America...yeah APD has time for this.
That reminds me of the Holy Grail skit where Lancelot is rescued from the castle of women because he was in "Great peril!"
If I had the energy I would also sarcastically describe the ravenous crowd the muffins are, equally in corsets and makeup and heels and such. But you get the point by now. These were the ones that were going to riot. Right...
It is easy to see how speculation can meander around without details but I just described a good portion of them. And while we are casting words of un-professionalism at EA, know that she caught a miserable cold by greeting her VIP ticket holders as well as general muffins outside for THREE hours in the 54 degree Atlanta night. Why, because the venue was continuing its unprofessional behaviour and giving the TM grief about having the VIP greet in the building AS CONTRACTED. What's that? Another breach of contract....
[sarcasm] Yeah, EA over reacted...[/sarcasm]
As to the OP, as far as the conversation EA had directly with the owner, from what I can tell, he was so glad she was playing there. In fact, he originally turned the show down because he didnt think his venue would do the production justice.
Regards,
inkydust
topic.
When I watched the video I was a bit freaked out by her behavior because I'm used to seeing her being more calm and only being aggressive in an "acting" or "performing" way but after reading Inky's comment on the issue I feel that her anger was justifiable. She wanted to give her muffins the best show possible and the venue was screwing with her.
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At the Chicago show, I did tell her and Melissa how I noticed a big change in Em's attitude towards different things and that's when she grabbed Melissa and whispered "It's because of this girl!"